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Yiganerjing, caution

My seborrheic dermatitis dates back well over 40 years. Throughout all that time, the only treatment offered by any of the dermatologists is a corticosteroid cream. 

It is effective and I hate using it. The side effects are as bad (or worse) than the seborrhea. 

The side effects that I ended up with include small pimples and raised bumps (puss). They are not only itchy, but sore as well. I also ended up with some redness in and around the area of the small growths as well as more generally around the hairline.

Acne and rosacea are two known side effects of steroid creams . Other side effects include:

  • burning (or stinging) when applied
  • worsening of pre-existing skin infection
  • inflammed hair follicles
  • unwanted hair growth where the steroid is applied
  • thinning of the skin
  • stretch marks and visible blood veins
  • changes in hair growth
  • and, contact dermatitis

There may be more side effects, but these are the main ones. 

Since the steroid cream I was prescribed is the only treatment that works, I use it sparingly when I absolutely have to. That means when my skin is bright red like a neon sign and the scaling/flaking is at its worst. Then, and only then, do I use the steroid cream.

I've long looked for alternatives and found several. You can read about those in other articles in my blog ... this particular article is about one of those alternatives: Yiganerjing cream. 

I ordered a bunch of these Chinese treatments. It works as well as the steroid cream, and just as fast (perhaps even faster). Countless others declare it as effective too. Many with psoriasis see this as one of the few natural treatments that works. It reduces the redness, scaling, and flaking – quickly. For some folks, it completely clears the skin and restores a natural look. For others, the symptoms are reduced significantly.

If you follow the posts on social media and forums, though, there are a lot of questions about the ingredients. The batch that I ordered came with an information sheet that listed the ingredients: cortex pseudolaricis, sophora, common cnidium fruit, belvedere fruit, white moss skin, cortex phellodendri, honeylocust thorn, unicorn lotus, radix stemonae, glabrous greenbrier rhizome, seven swords, iron Holly, white petroleum jelly, menthol, purified water, chlohexidine acetate, etc. Note at the end "etc" ... along with trying to figure out what some of these ingredients "mean", this "etc" adds to the concerns.

I've been using Yiganerjing now for about two months. Since I started using it, my symptoms have all gone away. That is mainly to my face, though. The symptoms of seborrhea are not usually in my scalp usually (in the hairline a bit). When I started to get the scaling and flaking in my scalp, I used a bit of the Yiganerjing cream and spread it through to my scalp using my finger tips. And, it worked. So, every time I wash my hair I use a bit of the Yiganerjing cream on my scalp.

Since I have started to apply this to my scalp, the same acne started up ... identical to when I was using the steroid cream. Same locations, same look and feel to the acne. That leads me to believe that the "etc" in the Yiganerjing ingredient list is a mild to moderate amount of steroids. The acne happens only when I am using steroids to control the seborrheic dermatitis. Unlike the steroid cream, though, the acne only manifests when I apply the Yiganerjing cream to my scalp. (PS. I will not be applying this to my scalp again).

Seborrheic dermatitis and psoriasis are horrible diseases. The symptoms often keep sufferers house-bound and introverted. It may well be a reasonable trade off to accept moderate acne in exchange for relief from the itching, scaling, and flaking ... but it is up to the sufferer to make that call – either on their own or in consultation with their medical providers. 

It is completely unacceptable that the side effects are caused by an unlisted or undefined ingredient – completely unacceptable. 

Why? 

There are many people choosing Yiganerjing because it is a natural supplement. All of the ingredients that I read on the info sheet that came with my shipment are natural ingredients – except one. "White Petroleum Jelly" is listed, and is not a natural ingredient. Although I view it as innocuous, it is still a by-product of the oil production process. One commercial product all will recognize, Vaseline, is refined petroleum jelly. There are some that claim petroleum jelly is cancer causing, the Environmental Working Group rates it as a "1" on the toxicity scale.

The greater concern is for those that purchase Yiganerjing with the intent of using it on children and youth. I would suggest using it with the same concern as any steroid cream ... sparingly and only if absolutely necessary. 

I will be more cautious when I use Yiganerjing. I will not be using it on my scalp again unless absolutely necessary (the same critereia I used when deciding to apply steroid cream). 

And, a postscript. I have read many posts where users have no idea how to apply Yiganerjing. Even if this is a natural product, use sparingly. I use about 0.5 gram on my face, and 0.5 gram on my scalp. I will continue to use 0.5 g on my face. If  you are using this as a psoriasis, use as little as possible – after you remove the scales and flakes with warm water and sea salt (or epsom salt). If you want to dilute the Yiganerjing a bit, you can do what I do. Put a dab in one hand, wet the other and shake the water off – just enough moisture on one hand to "cut" the Yiganerjing a bit. 

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SLS scare tactics

There are postings on Facebook regarding SLS ... from individuals using scare tactics to solicit sign-ups for newsletters (and presumably, paid services).

Any warnings or alerts about SLS are preying on fear – and nothing else. There's no science behind the scare tactics.

Along with SLS, there are two other ingredients used in soaps and shampoos that are also part of the scare tactics. So, let's unmask the acronyms and discuss all of these. SLS stands for Sodium Lauryl Sulfate. There's another similarly named compound, Sodium Laureth Sulfare (acronym: SLES), and a third compound Ammonium Laureth Sulfate (ALS). All three are widely used and help create the suds or foaming action while washing. These three compounds are usually referred to jointly as "sulfates".

The scare tactics claim these products are cancer causing and damaging to your body. This has been de-bunked by several organizations and de-bunked by science. It's a myth traced back to 1998 and documented on http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/shampoo.asp. And, to use a portion of that report, you can tell when this is a scare tactic when the bright light bulb writing about it confuses SLS and SLES.

If you get shampoo or soap with any of these three compounds in your eyes, it will irritate. To a small percentage of users, it will also irritate when left un-rinsed on your hair or skin. When used properly and rinsed off as it should be, any product with these compounds is safe.

What is interesting is that the exact same irritation will occur, in the exact same circumstances, if you use sulfate-free soaps and shampoos. With sulfate-free soaps and shampoos you get exactly the same drying out effect. About the only difference is that you pay more for sulfate-free and use more of it.

Those of us that suffer from SD need to wash away the scaling, flakes, and excess oils produces on our skin. The most effective are products discussed on Facebook. The three most effective (as I've found) are Nizoral, Davis Miconazole Shampoo, and Head & Shoulders Clinical Strength. I use these to eliminate the redness and itching. They also effectively remove the scales and flakes ... and I use a cream afterwards to keep the scales and flakes away.

There are many on the SD Facebook page that shout out the benefits of Coconut Oil – to the bright bulbs writing scare tactics: SLS is most often derived from Coconut Oil.

But, don't take just my word for it. I'm not selling anything and I do not derive any income or revenue from discussing SD, products, or strategies to be itch-free and flake-free. Read a chemist's report: http://www.xovain.com/hair/do-you-need-to-worry-about-sulfates-in-your-shampoo

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Yiganerjing (follow up)

I this wrote an article about  Yiganerjing just ten days ago.

And, here I am with an update already. Well, this is the most effective treatment for seborrhea (SD) that I have come across in over 40 years of dealing with this.

I must confess that I almost gave up trying this on the very first application. My skin felt like it was on fire. It was an intense warm tingling sensation, bordering on "hot". My initial reaction was to wash it off – quickly and go back to one of the other creams that has worked for me before.  I am pleased that I decided to continue on ... in the interest of my tests of new products .

This Yinganerjing is different. It does not contain any of the known ingredients that destroy the malasseiza fungus. Yet, it gets good reviews from people that use it to treat seborrhea and other dermatitis diseases .

I am firmly convinced the "cause" of seborrhea is digestion related. Whether malabsorption or malnutrition, it is from poor digestion that also causes other issues.

So, let me make this good news. I have not had any redness or itching since I started using Yiganerjing. Not only that, but I also have not had any scaling or flaking whatsoever. Not even one little flake. My skin is smooth, normal color, and I am thrilled about it. Until this past year, my flare ups were something like an annual visit that lasted at most a few weeks. This past year it has been a constant in my life. 

In terms of self-treatments, my goal is always to deal with the most important aspect of any disease – that is the internal component. That is usually diet based. And before I hear from someone about the benefits of a vegan diet, or whatever is popular today, ANY diet can cause this issue. You can have the very best of ingredients, but clean and cook them with chlorinated water and you have a diet that is useless. Down that chlorinated-spiked food with more water from the same source and you are creating the very environment I am working to get rid of.

Let me make it quite clear, the most important part of my self-treatment for seborrhea is to get rid of any chlorine in the water you bathe (or shower) in and the water you drink and prepare food with. I believe chlorine to be one of the major culprits in triggering a flare up.

Since I believe this to be a digestion issue, I am convinced that the next issue is repleneshing the vitamins and minerals that we are not properly absorbing. I have monitored my own lab results for more than five years now. There's about 15 of them and all show common deficiencies. I've also been fortunate to have the ability to view the lab results for others that I discuss these issues with – and they show the exact same common deficiencies. 

Next, then, on my self-treatment list (any dosage is daily total) are: Vitamin D3 (25-hydroxy on your lab test), I take 1000 mg four times daily for a total of 4000 mg; Biotin, I take 1000 mcg daily; and, Potassium with Iodine, small dosage bottled, once daily. That should work on the cause, although I hesitate to call it that since the cause is really unknown.

The last part of my self-treatment is to treat the manifestation of this disease, that is topical treatments to deal with the inflammation (redness, itching) and resulting scaling and flaking. I have not changed that routine. I use two shampoos. Both are as effective as the other, I have no big preference other than the first is quite a bit less expensive. I use Davis  Miconazole Shampoo  (yes, it is a pet shampoo) and  Nizoral shampoo  ketoconazole 2%. Both have active ingredients in the "azole" family of ingredients. I prefer a bath to a shower. That lets me relax for some time and get the benefits of a soak in Epsom Salt (magnesium sulfate). I add about 1/2 cup to my chlorine-free bath water. I normally just use a regular unscented soap to lather up my hair and face and rinse that off. Then I lay in the water sideways in such a way that I can cover a bit more than half of my hair and turn back and forth every couple of minutes for about 10 minutes in total. After that, I use the one of the shampoos mentioned earlier. The first time is a full lather in my hair and spread on my face. I rinse that off. I then repeat (hair and face) and leave that on for at least two full minutes. During that time, I wash the rest of my body (usually with a chamomille soap). After finishing this process, I rinse off my hair completely using chlorine-free tap water – then dry off with a towel. 

After shaving (I do not use any soaps after a bath, skin is already moist enough to shave directly with a wet blade), I apply about 1 gram of Yinganerjing on my face. I "knead" it in and make sure every part of my face is covered (with a very light amount on the top part of eyelid, none near the eyelash). That includes special attention to the sideburns and hairline at the forehead. Once that is well worked in, I put another 1 gram on my hands and work that into my hair and "knead" it into the scalp. By this time, I am starting to feel a gentle cool tingling on my face. After I finish putting the Yinganerjing on my scalp, I comb. As I finish combing, I can fee that same gentle cooling effect on my scalp. The cooling effect and tingling only lasts about 10 minutes. Note there is also a minty odor, and that lasts about the same amount of time.

This process has me back to normal again. 

When I first started this, it was a test to see if this worked. My routine is not "normal" when I am doing testing. In this case, the first week was a bath every two days as described above. On the alternating days, I washed lightly before bed, washed lightly again in the morning and added 1 gram of Yinganerjing onto my face. This resulted in the second week with no symptoms of seborrhea at all. I changed the routine to one bath (as above) and no washing in between to see how long before the seborrhea returned. It didn't. I didn't add any Yinganerjing, no facial, no bath, nothing. (Just to test).

I am now back to a regular routine with bathing frequency back to normal. At night, I wash lightly and occasionally apply some Yinganerjing.

And, a quick note ... an emergency flare up treatment. During the past few months, I have been testing different products and strategies to deal with my seborrhea. Along the way, I frequently had flare ups with excessive flaking, redness and itching. I found the best way of dealing with those was a quick wash to get rid of the flaking followed by one of the "azole" creams. I tried various moisturizers, but found that all of them made the flare up worse (not one single moisturizer worked during flare ups). If you are in the US, you are fortunate to be able to order 2% miconazole cream in 15g tubes – six of them for $9.99 off of a popular online store. (The same product in Canada is $44.99).

Good luck with your SD. 

PS. This is NOT a cure. This is an effective treatment program. 

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