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Yiganerjing (follow up)

I this wrote an article about  Yiganerjing just ten days ago.

And, here I am with an update already. Well, this is the most effective treatment for seborrhea (SD) that I have come across in over 40 years of dealing with this.

I must confess that I almost gave up trying this on the very first application. My skin felt like it was on fire. It was an intense warm tingling sensation, bordering on "hot". My initial reaction was to wash it off – quickly and go back to one of the other creams that has worked for me before.  I am pleased that I decided to continue on ... in the interest of my tests of new products .

This Yinganerjing is different. It does not contain any of the known ingredients that destroy the malasseiza fungus. Yet, it gets good reviews from people that use it to treat seborrhea and other dermatitis diseases .

I am firmly convinced the "cause" of seborrhea is digestion related. Whether malabsorption or malnutrition, it is from poor digestion that also causes other issues.

So, let me make this good news. I have not had any redness or itching since I started using Yiganerjing. Not only that, but I also have not had any scaling or flaking whatsoever. Not even one little flake. My skin is smooth, normal color, and I am thrilled about it. Until this past year, my flare ups were something like an annual visit that lasted at most a few weeks. This past year it has been a constant in my life. 

In terms of self-treatments, my goal is always to deal with the most important aspect of any disease – that is the internal component. That is usually diet based. And before I hear from someone about the benefits of a vegan diet, or whatever is popular today, ANY diet can cause this issue. You can have the very best of ingredients, but clean and cook them with chlorinated water and you have a diet that is useless. Down that chlorinated-spiked food with more water from the same source and you are creating the very environment I am working to get rid of.

Let me make it quite clear, the most important part of my self-treatment for seborrhea is to get rid of any chlorine in the water you bathe (or shower) in and the water you drink and prepare food with. I believe chlorine to be one of the major culprits in triggering a flare up.

Since I believe this to be a digestion issue, I am convinced that the next issue is repleneshing the vitamins and minerals that we are not properly absorbing. I have monitored my own lab results for more than five years now. There's about 15 of them and all show common deficiencies. I've also been fortunate to have the ability to view the lab results for others that I discuss these issues with – and they show the exact same common deficiencies. 

Next, then, on my self-treatment list (any dosage is daily total) are: Vitamin D3 (25-hydroxy on your lab test), I take 1000 mg four times daily for a total of 4000 mg; Biotin, I take 1000 mcg daily; and, Potassium with Iodine, small dosage bottled, once daily. That should work on the cause, although I hesitate to call it that since the cause is really unknown.

The last part of my self-treatment is to treat the manifestation of this disease, that is topical treatments to deal with the inflammation (redness, itching) and resulting scaling and flaking. I have not changed that routine. I use two shampoos. Both are as effective as the other, I have no big preference other than the first is quite a bit less expensive. I use Davis  Miconazole Shampoo  (yes, it is a pet shampoo) and  Nizoral shampoo  ketoconazole 2%. Both have active ingredients in the "azole" family of ingredients. I prefer a bath to a shower. That lets me relax for some time and get the benefits of a soak in Epsom Salt (magnesium sulfate). I add about ½ cup to my chlorine-free bath water. I normally just use a regular unscented soap to lather up my hair and face and rinse that off. Then I lay in the water sideways in such a way that I can cover a bit more than half of my hair and turn back and forth every couple of minutes for about 10 minutes in total. After that, I use the one of the shampoos mentioned earlier. The first time is a full lather in my hair and spread on my face. I rinse that off. I then repeat (hair and face) and leave that on for at least two full minutes. During that time, I wash the rest of my body (usually with a chamomille soap). After finishing this process, I rinse off my hair completely using chlorine-free tap water – then dry off with a towel. 

After shaving (I do not use any soaps after a bath, skin is already moist enough to shave directly with a wet blade), I apply about 1 gram of Yinganerjing on my face. I "knead" it in and make sure every part of my face is covered (with a very light amount on the top part of eyelid, none near the eyelash). That includes special attention to the sideburns and hairline at the forehead. Once that is well worked in, I put another 1 gram on my hands and work that into my hair and "knead" it into the scalp. By this time, I am starting to feel a gentle cool tingling on my face. After I finish putting the Yinganerjing on my scalp, I comb. As I finish combing, I can fee that same gentle cooling effect on my scalp. The cooling effect and tingling only lasts about 10 minutes. Note there is also a minty odor, and that lasts about the same amount of time.

This process has me back to normal again. 

When I first started this, it was a test to see if this worked. My routine is not "normal" when I am doing testing. In this case, the first week was a bath every two days as described above. On the alternating days, I washed lightly before bed, washed lightly again in the morning and added 1 gram of Yinganerjing onto my face. This resulted in the second week with no symptoms of seborrhea at all. I changed the routine to one bath (as above) and no washing in between to see how long before the seborrhea returned. It didn't. I didn't add any Yinganerjing, no facial, no bath, nothing. (Just to test).

I am now back to a regular routine with bathing frequency back to normal. At night, I wash lightly and occasionally apply some Yinganerjing.

And, a quick note ... an emergency flare up treatment. During the past few months, I have been testing different products and strategies to deal with my seborrhea. Along the way, I frequently had flare ups with excessive flaking, redness and itching. I found the best way of dealing with those was a quick wash to get rid of the flaking followed by one of the "azole" creams. I tried various moisturizers, but found that all of them made the flare up worse (not one single moisturizer worked during flare ups). If you are in the US, you are fortunate to be able to order 2% miconazole cream in 15g tubes – six of them for $9.99 off of a popular online store. (The same product in Canada is $44.99).

Good luck with your SD. 

PS. This is NOT a cure. This is an effective treatment program. 

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I read an interesting post on Facebook where someone was discussing a Chinese herbal cream that had helped with their skin condition.

I decided to order some and try it out.

I ordered a lot of 10 15g tubes of a product called Yiganerjing. The ingredient list is:
cortex pseudolaricis, sophora, common cnidium fruit, belvedere fruit, white moss skin, cortex phellodendri, honeylocust thorn, unicorn lotus, radix stemonae, glabrous greenbrier rhizome, seven swords, iron Holly, white petroleum jelly, menthol, purified water, chlohexidine acetate, etc

My reaction to the ingredients was likely similar to yours. Most appear to be natural ingredients, except for two. Chlohexidine acetate is on the World Health Organization List of Essential Medicines and widely used in dentistry, dental products, cosmetics, etc. White pretroleum jelly is not a natural product, but is used widely in a variety of industries and products, including cosmetics. I also thought adding menthol to any cream for the scalp and face was a bit strange.

Based on proper research, I often test products that may resolve health issues. Since this has none of the typical seborrhea treatment ingredients (anything ending in "azole"), I was quite keen on trying it out ... and didn't expect much from my tests.

I was in for quite the surprise ...

I think one of the most important times for any topical treatment is right after a warm wash. That opens your pores and provides an excellent way of getting maximum benefits from the treatment. Right after a bath or shower is ideal.

That's when I first used Yiganerjing. I wasn't ready for this ... an intense warm tingling sensation, bordering on "hot". I wanted it to stop and considered washing it off. I decided to proceed with the test and allow the cream to do its work. The warm/hot sensation dwindled and disappeared after about 3-4 minutes. The tingling took about another minute or two past that. The smell of menthol is prominent and I expected that – it is, after all, right under your nose.

Unlike some of the other topical treatments, this left an oily feeling and did not remove any redness. The redness did subside within 3 to 4 hours.

Once the menthol smell dissipates, the effect of this cream is really quite nice. My skin feels fairly normal with a slight "oiliness" ... and by that I mean it is not feeling dry, feels healthy, and is not as oily as the SD by itself. It feels good and feels healthy. I apply this cream every day and it keeps the scaling (that roughness feeling stage before flaking) and flaking away.

The only issue with this cream is the initial application after a warm bath or shower. I have gotten used to it now and look forward to the warm intense tingling ... I view that now as the start of a normal look with no flaking.

I ordered Yiganerjing directly from China. I bought a 10 pack of 15g tubes at a cost of $10.99 including shipping. That's about $1.10 for each tube. A good value for something that works.

I intend on continuing using this product ... it cost less than any other treatment I have found and is more effective for longer periods of time.

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My seborrhea treatments

Treatments, that's plural for a reason. There is no single magic bullet to treat seborrheic dermatitis. There is no cure. As fine as our medical researchers are, there is also no known cause for this. WebMD calls this a disease, Wikipedia calls it a disorder. I call it a nasty prize in a lottery that I won ... along with about five percent of the adult population. 

I have managed to find a few things that work well for me. If you try these out, keep in mind it is entirely at your own risk. I am not a doctor and I am not involved in the medical community in any capacity. I have had seborrhea for at least 45 years with light annual recurrences. It's only the last four or five years that my seborrhea has progressed, and only in the past year where it has become a nuissance affecting my life. I find the flaking and redness most embarassing. 

Through my research and observations, I noticed that bathing or showering had two distinct separate effects. The first is that the warm water seems to help with itching and does temporarily remove the scaling (and oil residue on the skin). The second is that it also seemed to trigger redness followed by flaking within an hour of finishing a bath.

A bath (or shower) also seemed to be the most significant trigger of a seborrhea flare up – for me.

Since we have recently moved to our current home, I decided to purchase an inexpensive water testing kit to determine the hardness of the water, pH level, and any possible extras in the water (like fluoride and chlorine). I was most interested in getting the chlorine level in our water. It took me some time to locate a water testing kit, but I did take a water sample to one of the companies that sell home water treatment systems. They typically will test the water while you are there and give you the results immediately. Our chlorine level was at 3 ppm. That is roughly equivalent to the level of chlorine in a public pool. To find this level in tap water is quite unusual. The test also showed the water hardness at 8 grains – moderate hardness. I was not as concerned with the hardness since there were no deposit residues on any of our taps, drains, basins, or laundry. 

I started to suspect that the chlorine was a major trigger for seborrhea. If it isn't obvious, having chlorine in your water affects everything in your home: laundry, food preparation, drinking water, ice cubes, as well as bathing and showering. This is extreme exposure to chlorine on a regular and sustained basis.

I hate spending money unless it is absolutely necessary. I wasn't prepared to invest in whole home filtration systems unless I knew it would help relieve the seborrhea symptoms. I decided to test this as a possible solution by purchasing an inexpensive shower head decided to reduce chlorine. Spending $30 on a "Sprite" showerhead. I installed it and ran it for about 10 minutes before taking a shower – and, it worked. It was immediately obvious that the redness was gone. I tested that showerhead for one week with the same result: no redness, no irritation, no trigger. Flaking didn't come back for at least 24 to 36 hours after the shower. I personally prefer a bath, though ... I like adding Epsom Salt to a bath and lounge for a good 20 minute soak. So, I used the shower head to fill up a bathtub full of water and added Epsom Salt. Absolutely heavenly. Epsom Salt is magnesium sulfate. I use it to soap the areas where seborrhea is prominent. It helps to rid the skin of the malasseiza fungus. And, the bath worked perfectly too. So I purchased a whole house water filtration system that would slightly reduce the hardness and reduce the chlorine. After the installation, tests show the chlorine at 0.

By the way, I use two shampoos. Both are as effective as the other, I have no big preference other than the first is quite a bit less expensive. I use Davis Miconazole Shampoo (yes, it is a pet shampoo) and Nizoral shampoo ketoconazole 2%. Both have active ingredients in the "azole" family of ingredients.

Reducing the chlorine in the water is one part of my self treatment. As I pointed out, the flaking still returns after 24 to 36 hours. I want to be free of the flakes for longer than that. 

Vitamin D3 , 2000 IU four times daily. I have authored several articles previously on my health issues. One of the points that I make is the absence of certain compounds in our bodies. By "our" bodies, I mean those of us that have chronic illnesses or diseases. When I include all the lab tests others have shared with me, plus all of mine for nearly six years, I note that we are all deficient in 25-hydroxy (vitamin D3), B12, and have low pH levels. For many years, I have been taking Vitamin D3 (2000 IU daily), B12 (1000 mcg daily), and have taken steps to increase my pH levels. I have managed to slightly increase 25-hydroxy, B12, and maintained pH levels (no increase until recently). As I researched possible treatments for seborrhea, 25-hydroxy kept coming up as a possible treatment. I decided to increase Vitamin D3 supplements to 8000 IU (that is 2000 IU four times daily) and increase my resolve to raise my pH levels. I also increased Omega 3. With these changes, the flaking and scaling now stays away for up to 72 hours at a time (3 full days) and increasing.

Omega 3 , 2000 mg with each meal. I don't want to mince words here, Omega 3 is the only Omega supplement anyone should be taking. All of us are already getting far too much Omega 6 in our diets – and it's not a desirable supplement. I started taking Omega 3 at my wife's recommendation several years ago. I also have  steatorrhea. One of the main symptoms is excreting oil with or without feces. To control this, my doctor and dietician recommended taking some psyllium husks with each meal. The theory is that the psyllium husks would absorb the oil – and that worked. The only issue is that psyllium husks are a carbohydrate (2 tbsp = 10 grams of carbs) and was not friendly to my diabetes control. While looking for an alternative, I tried Omega 3 at my wife's recommendation and found it far more effective at controlling steatorrhea than the psyllium husks and also helped with glycemic control. All it really took to help with the stetorrhea was an average of 1500 mg of Omega 3 daily (I was taking three 1000 mg every two days ...). I decided to increase this to two 1000 mg at each meal, meaning a total of 6000 mg daily. I believe this, combined with de-chlorinated water, and vitamin D3 to be working quite effectively. 

As I write this, I have no redness. I am generally free of scales and flakes for about three days at a time.

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